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PauloPires
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30 May 2019 10:04

Hello,
I've started playing With promods and yesterday i've started seeing stuttering (i don't know if it's the correct work, it's like hiccups) and the frames never drop below 60 when it happens and normal they are between 70 and 110 With my rig that is i7-6700K, 16GB RAM, GTX 1070Ti, SSD ADATA Gammix S11 Pro M.2 that has 3500/3000MB speeds.
This never happend With the original maps.
I've attached the complete log from yesterday.


I remember that while creating the def file i chose Ultra drawing distance (extreme performance PC only). Could that create this problem and can i create a new def file With lower distance and replace the other one With no problem?
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30 May 2019 11:02

I see you use many other mods than Promods. I suggest you to remove them and test them 1 by 1. Maybe some of them causes lag spikes or maybe Promods' itself causes it but without testing them it is hard to say.
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30 May 2019 11:07

Hi,

I can say that Jazzycat´s Traffic Mods are hurting the Performance. Try to remove them.

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30 May 2019 12:23

EG0611 wrote:
30 May 2019 11:02
I see you use many other mods than Promods. I suggest you to remove them and test them 1 by 1. Maybe some of them causes lag spikes or maybe Promods' itself causes it but without testing them it is hard to say.
I'll try With out any other mods. All the mods worked fine With normal maps but since i know that ProMods is more demanding some mods might be the problem.

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scan720 wrote:
30 May 2019 11:07
Hi,

I can say that Jazzycat´s Traffic Mods are hurting the Performance. Try to remove them.

Best regards,
scan720
Well i did turn off that mod and it did get less hiccups but still got some so maybe gotta turn off all and check one at a time.

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scan720 wrote:
30 May 2019 11:07
Hi,

I can say that Jazzycat´s Traffic Mods are hurting the Performance. Try to remove them.

Best regards,
scan720

I remember that while creating the def file i chose Ultra drawing distance (extreme performance PC only). Could that create this problem and can i create a new def file With lower distance and replace the other one With no problem?

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EG0611 wrote:
30 May 2019 11:02
I see you use many other mods than Promods. I suggest you to remove them and test them 1 by 1. Maybe some of them causes lag spikes or maybe Promods' itself causes it but without testing them it is hard to say.


I remember that while creating the def file i chose Ultra drawing distance (extreme performance PC only). Could that create this problem and can i create a new def file With lower distance and replace the other one With no problem?

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30 May 2019 19:46

since Vegetation gets drawn much earlier it does definitly impact on performance, so create a lower spec Definition file should help.
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30 May 2019 22:58

Thank you for the help. I will try that too to see if my gtx 1070 ti can handle. And can I change the Def file with no problem?
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31 May 2019 05:28

Hi,

yes, just download the def file again and replace it with the old.

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01 Jun 2019 10:15

scan720 wrote:
31 May 2019 05:28
Hi,

yes, just download the def file again and replace it with the old.

Best regards,
scan720
I've done that but i don't know why but in the few minutes starting a job when turning it looks like the game blurs and i didn't see that in the other def i used.
Also yesterday i brought my rig to work and played on a normal FHD monitor With 60hz and i believe it's 5ms and With the first def i didn't see any hiccups (strange) and at home the same day at night i still saw them and my monitor is a 144hz monitor With 1ms and even G-SYNC. Is there a way to block the frames to 60 in the game? I chose 60fps in the game settings and set vsync on With power saving for notebooks and it locked to 72fps and just played a +/- 1:30h job and i think i didn't see any hiccups. Could it be that the game doesn't handle very well 144hz monitor? I know it doesn't support G-SYNC so it's useless to make the game better.

Also wich drawing distance compares to the original in the original ETS2 map?



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Trucker2223 wrote:
30 May 2019 19:46
since Vegetation gets drawn much earlier it does definitly impact on performance, so create a lower spec Definition file should help.

I've changed my def file from Ultra drawing distance to high drawing distance but i don't know why but in the few minutes starting a job when turning it looks like the game blurs and i didn't see that in the other def i used.
Also yesterday i brought my rig to work and played on a normal FHD monitor With 60hz and i believe it's 5ms and With the first def i didn't see any hiccups (strange) and at home the same day at night i still saw them and my monitor is a 144hz monitor With 1ms and even G-SYNC. Is there a way to block the frames to 60 in the game? I chose 60fps in the game settings and set vsync on With power saving for notebooks and it locked to 72fps and just played a +/- 1:30h job and i think i didn't see any hiccups. Could it be that the game doesn't handle very well 144hz monitor? I know it doesn't support G-SYNC so it's useless to make the game better.

Also wich drawing distance compares to the original in the original ETS2 map?

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08 Jun 2019 17:25

PauloPires wrote:
30 May 2019 22:58
Thank you for the help. I will try that too to see if my gtx 1070 ti can handle. And can I change the Def file with no problem?
That videocard should be able to handle... anything. Keep in mind, problems of performance with ETS2 are most of the times not related to the videocard, but with memory issues, buffer issues and things like that. Traffic mods are the ones who always demand more.

Also, those hiccups are not stutter, they are just gaps of memory allocation due to mod conflicts, or just you have more mods than the game can handle.

To fix this, you will probably need to tweak your config file and set launch options like -mm_max_resource_size and/or mm_max_temp_buffers size (i think those are the ones but i could not be sure). Keep in mind, all the default values of the game are set for the default vanilla game. In the moment you start adding mods, and specially something like promods, those minimum requirements are not longer valid. They rise, a lot.

But so you know, your videocard can handle a pretty complex AAA game. So, yeah, im pretty sure it can handle ETS2 at maximum settings without sweat. As i said, the problem is not your videocard performance, but the optimization of memory buffers.

Also btw. Hiccups are not stutter. You first need to be sure that it is actually stutter what you suffer, because activating vsync when there is no stutter is the worst thing you could do because you will be locking your fps. Stutter usually is just a half second micro freeze that happens by time to time. But a hiccup is something worst, like if the game could not load fast enough the scenary or if the game was writting to disc at the same time, something like that. Its a different symptom.

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28 Jul 2019 12:07

I can't find those two on my config.cfg file.
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