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Re: PM 2.60 Road Connectioncs

Posted: 28 Dec 2021 18:01
by Shiva
Rorschach_ ProMods had small bits of Ukraine in Sep 5th 2017 for ETS2 v1.28.x ProMods v2.20

ROMANIA EXTENDED MAP by Arayas, 1st post on SCS forums, before any Ukraine, was 28 Jan 2018.
https://forum.scssoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=250965 . Note, that the original first post has had lot ot modifications after it was created.
So I can't see when the first versions of Romania Extended Map was posted, but not before 28th january 2018.
1st post not by Arayas? a ProMods dev for Romania, that said: Wishing you good luck with your project!
Zero ill will, even when his work would be overwritten by Arayas work.
Only noting the city density vs other areas.

So your
The ProMods team doesn't respect his work.
is quite out of line.

Roextended:

1st test drive youtube video 11th february 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4mKo9CHtX4
From that video, the old blog for RoEx etc. https://arayasets2mods.blogspot.com/

Sunday, January 28, 2018 " Romania Extended (for vanilla) "
https://arayasets2mods.blogspot.com/201 ... nilla.html

Monday, March 5, 2018 " ROMANIA EXTENDED BETA 0.9A "
https://arayasets2mods.blogspot.com/201 ... a-09a.html

Even if counting Romania for MarioMap "21 dec. 2017"
Mario Map v12.5 [1.30.x] with Arayas Europe Extended Edition
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55MrgjqWU0E


ProMods allows creation of map connectors.
Roextended? Only if Roextended does the road connections, if others do it? they can be sued.
Read the EULA.

Checking the RusMap thread on the forums here, it seems that a RusMap - ProMods connector is in the works.
viewtopic.php?p=329342#p329342
And it seems it is released, while I was finishing this post.
-> viewtopic.php?p=329352#p329352

Re: PM 2.60 Road Connections

Posted: 29 Dec 2021 10:36
by khkcon
And to come to the end for now: Arayas has published a RC between RoEx and Promods including Middle-East Addon.
More than 80% YES poll result for the PM Connectivity.

I wish you all a happy new year.

Re: PM 2.60 Road Connections (the end)

Posted: 29 Dec 2021 11:15
by arayas
Lets stop this here. Sergey and i provided our road connections.
We both have now a communication channel with Promods team. The reasons and the arguments are more and less true in both sides.
Enjoy any map you want, but respect the others. Simple.
Happy New Year and stay safe.

Re: PM 2.60 Road Connections (the end)

Posted: 29 Dec 2021 11:17
by Shiva
khkcon, happy new year to you too.
+ to the rest of of you all too.

arayas, thumbs up. Happy new year to you.

Re: PM 2.60 Road Connections (the end)

Posted: 29 Dec 2021 12:02
by Frate
Happy new year to all of you, but there is one last thing I´d like to ask you Arayas:
You stated that you would take down any road connection, which would overwrite roextended Ukraine with Promods-Ukraine.

Why can´t it be the same way as Rusmap and Promods agreed on for Murmansk meaning 2 connectors?

I am sure there are a lot of people who would be interested to have both options. I just don´t understand why you would go that far to block a 2nd way of connecting both maps.

I hope that you and Promods will come to an agreement about it, as it happended with Rusmap and hopefully there won´t be any more problems in the future.

Re: PM 2.60 Road Connectioncs

Posted: 29 Dec 2021 12:23
by husnupeksu
twozoom2 wrote:
28 Dec 2021 17:54
PM260_RM2.43.1_connect_vRusMap has been updated.
thanks for this link.

Re: PM 2.60 Road Connections (the end)

Posted: 29 Dec 2021 13:26
by arayas
Frate wrote:
29 Dec 2021 12:02

Why can´t it be the same way as Rusmap and Promods agreed on for Murmansk meaning 2 connectors?

I am sure there are a lot of people who would be interested to have both options. I just don´t understand why you would go that far to block a 2nd way of connecting both maps.

I hope that you and Promods will come to an agreement about it, as it happended with Rusmap and hopefully there won´t be any more problems in the future.
Because i don't want to reduce my map role to a placeholder map for other maps, not only Promods. Promods its a bigger project, with more users and is natural for people to ask the same question but is not a natural solution for me regarding my map.
Its like your girlfriend is telling you: "i like to spend time with you, but just until the other guy is here". Fun? Not likely.
You can always enjoy Promods without Roextended with full benefits. The number of profiles and map combo's are unlimited. Take what you like. I hope its a clear answer.

Re: PM 2.60 Road Connections (the end)

Posted: 29 Dec 2021 14:34
by Evgeniy1000104
Why don't you take into account the fact that Ukraine Promods is more realistic than yours?

Re: PM 2.60 Road Connections (the end)

Posted: 29 Dec 2021 15:15
by Wrona 628
Evgeniy1000104 wrote:
29 Dec 2021 14:34
Why don't you take into account the fact that Ukraine Promods is more realistic than yours?
I think we can stop this. Arayas has his own vision, and ProMods has their own. It's pointless and siply unpolite to tell someone that's his work is far worse than the others. That's mine opinion. I tried Roex in the past, and I cannot tell that this is a bad map. It's simply a good and i some place also nice map. But I don't use it now, because... reasons.

Re: PM 2.60 Road Connections (the end)

Posted: 29 Dec 2021 15:49
by olaf28
As Wrona already said.
Let's stop this.

There has been a lot of talk behind the scenes to reach an agreement for the benefit of the community that everyone can live with. The moment we start discussing whose map is better and what is bad about someone else's work there is only one loser and that is the community. So in the interest of the community, let's stop this.