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14 Apr 2015 01:22

jontsuba wrote:Just some data about bridge-looking like resting areas. Nico said in ARP thread about using a Scandinavia DLC model for that and this kind of resting areas are quite characteristic.

Pina de Ebro resting area, AP-2 between Zaragoza and Lleida (having a close look, seems a bit different but the concept is the same)
Arrigorriaga resting area, AP-68 between Bilbao and Miranda de Ebro

Another landmark in AP-2 between Lleida and Zaragoza is the monument marking the Greenwich meridian. Quite easy to make, in my ignorant opinion:
Sign and monument
I think that Arrigorriaga can be considerate as a legendary rest area. Also I think that Altube too with the desviation to Vitoria and Pamplona.

When I go to muy village near to Zaragoza (Gallur-exit 19) I make a break in Logroño (also memorable) because the section between Logroño and Calahorra is bored so then I can do the rest more relaxed and faster.

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14 Apr 2015 15:24

I found another piece of info quite interesting. It's a heavy traffic (that means, trucks) intensity map (link, better downloaded than reading online). Data is from 2013. It's quite interesting as it gives you an idea of which roads trucks prefer. As an example, from Barcelona to Zaragoza they'd rather use old A-2 (freeway up to Lleida, single road to Zaragoza) over tolled AP-2 (El Vendrell-Zaragoza). They also prefer from Zaragoza to Bilbao going through N-232 up to Miranda de Ebro, N-I to Vitoria, N-622 to Altube and finally AP-68 to Bilbao. nteresting, isn't it? But there's also the opposite case: From Pamplona to the south, they'd prefer AP-15 over N-121.

Legend from more traffic to less traffic: Purple, Blue, Red, Orange, Brown, Yellow, Pale and Gray. Dashed lines in the middle for freeways, continuous lines in highways, no line if conventional road.

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14 Apr 2015 17:36

those are some cool statistical data

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14 Apr 2015 18:01

I don't think you can raise the amount of traffic in one piece of road and lower it on another. You can do this generally but not individually.
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14 Apr 2015 18:37

I don't get what you mean. If it it was something I said, I was just describing things on the map.

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14 Apr 2015 19:01

jontsuba wrote:If it it was something I said, I was just describing things on the map.
Oh sorry, my bad. I thought with that map you wanted to show how much traffic and what the traffic analogies should be. :oops:
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14 Apr 2015 19:25

No, I just wanted to say that in could be a designing tool as it shows which routes are actually used by trucks, helping to choose between roads and highways. And actually giving a quite balanced result in my area of study (Navarre/Basque Country)

Actually, I just remembered there's a plan that will come into action forbiding truck in certain roads making mandatory using the highway. Tolls will be subsidized at a 50%. That actually affects the roads I said earlier: N-II between Lleida and Zaragoza and N-124/N-232 between Miranda de Ebro and Zaragoza :( Also, N-I between Miranda de Ebro and Burgos. Still, while mapping you could made it with new regulations enforced or the pre-2015 situation ;) (source in Spanish and badly translated by Google)

Still, nothing is written on stone. Truckers are fighting against this measure.

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15 Apr 2015 09:23

tkk7406 wrote:
Schumi554 wrote:I think it is possible for a bridge rest area. Put a tunnel underneath and put a building on top. Then make customized resting areas with custom ramps and such.
And it will look exquisite too!
Stuff is nowhere as easy as it sounds ;)
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15 Apr 2015 16:46

Do you have plans to add Truck park in La Jonquera on the Spanish border - French ? ;)

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19 Apr 2015 08:23

Finally some new progress in Barcelona! Sorry if things aren't 100% real, its kinda hard to get it as right at possible.

Started basic work on the port:
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Inside the city (Mirador de Colom will go in the roundabout when I get the model):
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Stangreta wrote:Do you have plans to add Truck park in La Jonquera on the Spanish border - French ? ;)
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