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Re: [REL] RK Map_The Great Steppe _ v1.0

Posted: 15 Aug 2017 10:24
by Topolino
Yes.

Re: [REL] RK Map_The Great Steppe _ v1.0

Posted: 15 Aug 2017 14:04
by Davyddin
First of all, the atmosphere and ambition of this map are great! Now, this is meant to be purely constructive: There are a lot of roads that are not visible on the map. I don't know whether this is on purpose or not, but it is confusing and makes plotting routes on the GPS impossible. (Rare easter-egg roads are another thing, but they have to be just that – rare easter eggs.) In particular, as was pointed out earlier, there is some cut in Atiraw which makes it impossible to plot routes southward and eastward of it. This seems to eliminate jobs past that point (to Dossor, Maqat and Qulsari).

Re: [REL] RK Map_The Great Steppe _ v1.0

Posted: 15 Aug 2017 15:44
by watchingponies
Davyddin wrote:
15 Aug 2017 14:04
First of all, the atmosphere and ambition of this map are great! Now, this is meant to be purely constructive: There are a lot of roads that are not visible on the map. I don't know whether this is on purpose or not, but it is confusing and makes plotting routes on the GPS impossible. (Rare easter-egg roads are another thing, but they have to be just that – rare easter eggs.) In particular, as was pointed out earlier, there is some cut in Atiraw which makes it impossible to plot routes southward and eastward of it. This seems to eliminate jobs past that point (to Dossor, Maqat and Qulsari).
I'm driving with the invisible barriers mod, for realism sake.
Are there that many 'secret' roads ?

Are you sure the lack of jobs has to do with that cut ?
My fav drive is up there in Russia towards the Barentszee.
But there are no jobs that will take you passed the Finland - Russia border, super unfortunately.

When i mentioned it, Promods told me it has nothing to do with them, so it's an SCS thing.

That cut has to be fixed for sure though.
Just like the floating horses between Inderborsky & Uralsk. :lol:

Super enjoying this map.
I will return to Kazachstan asap.

Re: [REL] RK Map_The Great Steppe _ v1.0

Posted: 15 Aug 2017 17:28
by Mr Larrington
Davyddin wrote:
15 Aug 2017 14:04
First of all, the atmosphere and ambition of this map are great! Now, this is meant to be purely constructive: There are a lot of roads that are not visible on the map. I don't know whether this is on purpose or not, but it is confusing and makes plotting routes on the GPS impossible. (Rare easter-egg roads are another thing, but they have to be just that – rare easter eggs.) In particular, as was pointed out earlier, there is some cut in Atiraw which makes it impossible to plot routes southward and eastward of it. This seems to eliminate jobs past that point (to Dossor, Maqat and Qulsari).
I just this minute finished a job from Atiraw to Qulsari, so I guess it depends on exactly where the gap is. Next trip is Qulsari->Keflavik, with the Heavy Cargo DLC locomotive. This could take a while...

Re: [REL] RK Map_The Great Steppe _ v1.0

Posted: 16 Aug 2017 00:39
by Davyddin
watchingponies wrote:
15 Aug 2017 15:44
Are you sure the lack of jobs has to do with that cut ?
Fr8i wrote:
12 Aug 2017 10:01
Also between Atyrau and the eastern cities the gps can´t draw a route, so the game doesn´t generate jobs beyound Atyrau on the market.

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00:05:06.720 : <ERROR> Route cannot be found between [161262.45313;-14.39063;-596.31250] and [160841.40625;-15.09375;-1335.41797]! Map is discontinuous?
00:05:07.128 : <ERROR> Route cannot be found between [161262.45313;-14.39063;-596.31250] and [160841.40625;-15.09375;-1335.41797]! Map is discontinuous?
It was Fr8i who had reported on this issue earlier. I'm personally not knowledgeable enough to be absolutely certain, but it does seem to me to be the case that jobs crossing the cut in the centre of Atiraw cannot be generated.
Mr Larrington wrote:
15 Aug 2017 17:28
I just this minute finished a job from Atiraw to Qulsari, so I guess it depends on exactly where the gap is. Next trip is Qulsari->Keflavik, with the Heavy Cargo DLC locomotive.
The cut seems to be at the horseshoe-shaped diversion in the centre of Atıraw. There are companies both north and south of it, so getting jobs both northward and eastward from Atıraw would not in itself be strange. That you apparently got a job crossing Atıraw in the other direction, from Qulsarı to Keflavík, is strange, on the other hand, if the theory here is right.
watchingponies wrote:
15 Aug 2017 15:44
Are there that many 'secret' roads ?
Yes, many roads are missing from the map, honestly to the point of being quite frustrating, in particular since the GPS cannot plot routes where there are no roads on the map. It is most noticeable in the cities. There are also other "cuts" than the "infamous" one in Atıraw. It is also quite confusing in general, in my personal opinion, and gives sort of an unfinished impression. I would say Great Steppe would be even better with all roads properly present on the map.

Re: [REL] RK Map_The Great Steppe _ v1.0

Posted: 16 Aug 2017 01:14
by watchingponies
Okay, interesting.
I will leave the 'no boundaries' mod out next time in Kazakhstan.

There are for sure a crazy lot of short jobs just up and down to Qulsari & Atiraw.

Re: [REL] RK Map_The Great Steppe _ v1.0

Posted: 16 Aug 2017 03:24
by Mr Larrington
I just finished the job to Keflavik. Six and a half hours in real time, though I did have to do a number of diversions after discovering low bridges. Now trying to figure out where a bunch of error messages have come from. This could take almost as long as the job did.

Edit: from one of my own mods. Something had created files called "in" and "out" when they should have been directories. Where's the facepalm emoticon?

Re: [REL] RK Map_The Great Steppe _ v1.0

Posted: 19 Aug 2017 13:24
by Kuba98
I have a problem. I don't have a connection with rusmap. I have a promods 2.16 and rusmap 1.7.2 southern region and balkans

Re: [REL] RK Map_The Great Steppe _ v1.0

Posted: 19 Aug 2017 14:28
by Vernquist
Kuba98 wrote:
19 Aug 2017 13:24
I have a problem. I don't have a connection with rusmap. I have a promods 2.16 and rusmap 1.7.2 southern region and balkans
Update your maps - ProMods to 2.18 and RusMap to 1.74 and download the RusMap-ProMods connection ;)

Re: [REL] RK Map_The Great Steppe _ v1.0

Posted: 19 Aug 2017 16:27
by Kuba98
Vernquist wrote:
19 Aug 2017 14:28
Kuba98 wrote:
19 Aug 2017 13:24
I have a problem. I don't have a connection with rusmap. I have a promods 2.16 and rusmap 1.7.2 southern region and balkans
Update your maps - ProMods to 2.18 and RusMap to 1.74 and download the RusMap-ProMods connection ;)
Zrobilem update ale nie chce zaczynac nowej gry ale mnie wywala.... ładuje sie i wywala do windowsa a mam tylke te mapy które wymienilem a wersja gry to beta 1.28.. :(
I did update but I do not want to start a new game but it crashes .... I load and crash into windows and I have only those maps that I changed and the game version is beta 1.28 .. :(


EDIT:
ok wyłączyłem southern region i jest ok
Ok off the southern region and it's ok